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good talk show host? >> it's real good stuff. >> how much cocaine do you think charlie sheen has done? >> enough to kill "two and a half men." >> i love it! i got it. to uh. we really appreciate it. thanks for watching. you know what, "hardball" starts right now.ç huckleberry fib. let's play "hardball dwoechlt." good evening. i'm chris matthews. mike huckabee tried to wiggle free from his false claims about president obama by papering over his original false claims with more of them. just how far do republicans think cheap dishonest appeals to
the haters will get then in the race for the presidency? judging by the deafening silence whenever one these bomb throwers lobs one, it seems pretty far. but george f. will the columnist says the stuff spewed by the likes of huckabee and gingrich will wind up tainting the republican nominee. here is george will this sunday. let us know mince words. there are at most five plausible republican presidents on the horizon -- mitch daniels, haley barbour, jon huntsman, tim pawlenty, mitt romney. hi he thereby wrote huckabee and gingrich off the list of acceptable candidates. so did george will just knock them out of the race? it's our top story tonight. and speaking of republicans who threaten to contaminate other gop presidential candidates, michele bachmann refused to back away from her charge that president obama presides over a gangster government. plus remember how republicans pledged to put people back to work again when they swept back into power?
since then, what have they focused on? defunding planned parenthood, defending doma, investigating american muslims. this is the jobs agenda? is also some in both parties are pushing president obama to do more to help hose rebels fighting in gadhafi in libya, but can he really step in with military aid or a no-fly zone without risking an anti-american backlash in the region. and sarah palin broke ronald reagan's rule about never criticizing a fellow republican. we'll tell you which republican she took a whack at tonight in "the side show." let's start with george will knocking huckabee and newt gingrich right off the presidential stage. here is mike huckabee saturday night on his fox tv show.ç eric, i want to start with you about this conversation on sunday. but first, here's mike huckabee on his fox tv show. let's watch.
>> thank you very much and welcome to huckabee. my book is causing quite the stir this week, and some of it is, quite frankly, from my own verbal gaffe. in a radio interview with steve maltzberg on monday, i said president obama spent part of his early life in kenya. i meant to say indonesia. his father and grandfather were from kenya. my verbal slip did not go unnoticed. >> of course he didn't say part are -- here's what he actually said and he refused to replay the tape. it was no accident. let's listen. >> his perspective as growing up in kenya with a kenyan father and grandfather, their view of the mau mau revolution in kenya is very different than ours. he probably grew up hearing the british were a bunch of imperialists who persecuted his
grandfather. >> it's very, very hard to find any truth in that statement. he didn't grow up with his father, didn't ever meet his grandfather, met his father once, never was in -- and i spent years in africa and going back 20 times, i think i've been there about 500 days more than this guy. maybe 700 days or whatever. the idea that he's somehow kenyan because that's where his parents lived -- or his father lived -- is unbeliefably inaccurate to the point that you can not believe it was a slip of the tongue. >> no, there is no slip of the tongue but it's funny mike huckabee went back to that over the weekend on his fox news show. he had to address it, so he decided it was a slip of the tongue. the kenya gaffe as he calls it is absolutely central to this right ring critique of obama that he's foreign, he's not like us, he was influenced by his radical father and his radical grandfather. obama wrote an entire book about how he didn't know his ftaer. so mike huckabee plays up this notion that obama had an anti-american sentiment growing up that he inherited from his
father and grandfather. none of this stuff is true. and huckabee -- it's interesting, huckabee never ventured out of the right wing bubble last week and look where it got him. he stayed on right wing radio. he stayed on fox news and he kept digging a hole deeper and deeper. he refused to sit down with any real journalist or independent reporter and take any serious questions on this. the right, they think they've created this parallel universe where they don't have to deal with reality or the facts. but as huckabee found out, it's a good idea to at least try. but again, he just kept digging and digging and he stuck with it's a gaffe. it's not a gaffe. >> if his father was from i think england, for example, or germany, would they be ranting on this? would they be talking about this father thing? >> of course not. that's the whole angle. that's the whole schtick. he's not like us. if he's canadian, who would care. it's africa. it's very dangerous and disturbing.
>> it's mau mau. it's not african. it's black guys going around killing white guys. it's nat turner stuff. this is no fluke. this is no gaffe. he didn't actually -- i agree with you. >> it's also important to remember the context of the conversation. although we've never really heard of this host before, what he was saying to huckabee was obama despiezs the west, he despises england and he despises israel. >> i. each going to get into this at the end of the show. he builds up this specter that the guy is an imposter. you don't have any medical records, no educational records. he could be somebody that doesn't exist. he could be a fictitious character. george will said it's pure paranoia and huckabee should have said so. >> that was the context of this. while he was talking about despising the west, thisç explanation is his father and
his grandfather and the whole mau mau stuff. and he never said listen, i disagree with this guy on policy, but he does not hate america. he's not any different than you and i. so he's just pandering to fox. >> it's also far right. here he is huckabee saturday night more on fox. let's listen. >> i'll be back on the road this week, signing copies of "a simple government" and probably stirring up even more trouble. also at mikehuckabee.com, you'll find links to get a copy of book. you can get it at amazon, retailers and the link at mikehuckabee.com to get an autographed copy. >> he's very cuddly about himself, the way he describe himself as some trubadouor of gaffes as if he isn't out there playing to the haters. there is no doubt in my mind i've watched this guy, his comments about the palestinians. his idea of just playing to the
cultural right is absolutely -- i have a theory here. whether he runs or not, he want to the own the hard right. he wants no one to his right. your thinking, eric? >> i think that's probably true. george will had this great phrase, vibrations of weirdness. and i think that summed up mike huckabee last week. in a way, i think mike huckabee did us a favor. he held up a mirror to the right wing media and shows us how crazy they have become. large portions have been consumed by this obama derangement syndrome, and he absolu absolutely, as you say, wants to own that segment. it's a very profitable segment, a very loyal segment. he's out there selling books trying to make headlines and this is what you do. this is the conversation you have. you talk about how the president of the united states may not be loyal to -- >> what percentage -- both of you, what percentage of the republican iowa caucus vote which is what he's in love with, because they're in love with him, what percentage of that have vote that shows up next year in iowa earlyç next year
that caucus will be comfortable with people who are birthers? >> i would say half. >> they don't believe in evolution or science, they believe the earth is about 6,000 years order and they believe this guy is not an american. what do you think, eric? what percentage of the caucus attendees are comfortable with birtherism. like huk dee huckabee is. >> they're embracing the whole -- 60%, 70%. >> are you telling me 60% of the caucus goers are on the far right on issues like evolution, science, the president is not really an american? eric? >> yeah, yeah, i agree. they're embracing the whole fox news talking points. and even the birther stuff, they may be on the fence about the birth certificate, but the general notion that obama is foreign and not like us, absolutely. strong majority.
>> you have about 40% of the republican party at large believing in some element of birtherism. >> george will is literate. that's a big jump. here's george f. will before huckabee's tirade. quote, sensible americans must be detecting vibrations of weirdness emanating from people associated with the republican party. the most recent is mike huckabee, she have replayed i've seen paranoia, good-bye. republicans should understand that when self-described conser conservativ conservatives like malzberg and they do not recoil from them, the conservative party is incorrectly injured as it is directly when newt gingrich speculates about obama having a kenyan anti-colonial mentality.
it is gingrich who polluted the mind of mike huckabee. they are sharing this. it's viral now. he said that's how you have a predictive model is to think of him as an anti-imperialist ç -- he didn't say maumau. anti-imperialist kenyan. >> he said that's the best way to understand the president. it started with "forbes magazine" putting this on a cover story last september. newt gingrich talked it and then mick -- mike huckabee heard it. >> this is what's good about america. most americans by 80% have accepted the fact we have a president of a different ethnic background than perhaps their own. 80% about of the american people pick people on the basis of hair ability to do the job as president as they did in november of 2008. that is is the good news about america. 75% of americans tell our pollsters they like barack obama personally. that is what is driving these right wingers into this crazy corner of three generations ago because it's all they've got. that's the good news about america.
these people are so desperate they can't compete on issues. >> but it plays to the paranoia and resentment and anger that does exist in, i don't know, 20%, 30% of the population. and mike huckabee leapfrogged over sarah palin to be head of that -- >> wait. sarah palin is getting very nervous about chris christie because a rational guy who focused on the issues that matter to people and spending and economics, is already making her last month's flavor of the month. anyway, thank you. coming up, house republicans have been in power for two months. and so far they're going after women's rights, gay rights and now muslims. what happened to focus on jobs? isn't that how they got in there? or even cutting spending. they're focused on the far right social issues. what is that about, why do they go there, why are they going to birtherism? you're watching hardball.
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the american people sent us here to work on their behalf. and that's exactly what we're going to do. we're going to have a relentless focus on creating jobs that the american people expect from our new majority. >> relentless focus on creating jobs. welcome back to hardball. that was john boehner just last month trying to hammer home the gop is the party of job creation. republicans swept into office, so why are they focused on all the other issues? women's issues, gay right,
muslims, when they promised voters they would thin out the unemployment lines. i'm amazed. this reminds me the '80s congress that came in after the second world war that all they did was go after the unions. but here we have -- let's start with the women things. what happened to the promise of boehner that he'll do a jobs agenda? first they go out there and planned parenthood.ç mike pence saids if planned parenthood wants to be involved in abortions and hiv testings, they ought not to be in the business of providing abortions. that's his personal opinion and that's his personal politics. why is the republican party focusing its intention and its new mandate on going after planned parenthood which largely provides birth control advice as i understand it. your thoughts. >> the whole midterm campaign was a fraud. they weren't interested in job,
they were just interested in power. but taking away health care that has nothing to do with abortion. from planned parenthood, because there's no federal money that goes to abortion in planned parenthood. the republican party is determined to appeal in congress to their base. they're terrified of that base, they're terrified of what happened in the primaries to some senators and congressmen, so they're responding to extremes. >> my question is why are they going after birth control? if you want -- it's an argument religious based in many ways, but if you think abortion is murder, then why not try to prevent the numbers of abortions by dealing at least on one front birth control advice to people that don't take care to avoid having pregnancies when they don't have the means or the intention of raising a child. >> could i get back to the
premise of your question. >> same question. >> the republicans have been focused on job creation. when they got elected, the obama administration had to because republicans extended the bush tax cut, when the republicans got into office, they focused first on cutting spending. they had a job creation cutting spending bill which the business community is breathing a sigh of relief and that's why the unemployment rate is down to 8.9%. >> that is complete drivel. you can't answer the question so you give us some drively talking points. >> what jobs bill did it they ç pass? they're going after gays and muslims. what actual jobs bill is competing with this action? >> what they have done is first of all, they forced the president to extend the bush tax cut which is gave a huge boost to the business community. what they've also done is they've focused on deficits in
the congress, cleaning up the mess left from the democrats, which helps the business community and gives the financial markets some confidence that we're going to get the budget under control. and i think that these other things are part of the debate. they're not the central part of the debate. >> so this is all moonlighting? >> well, the republicans are focused on jobs. >> is this moonlighting? i've never seen john so revved up. >> they're cutting spending. >> don't lose all your gas now. everybody is using up their gas now. what is this going after gays and saying they're going bring back enforcement of defense of marriage act. they're getting involved in these fights. it seems like your party is just making more enemies. you're going after women, you're going after gays and now you're coming out thursday, you're
having joe mccarthy-type hearings on muslims. what's this about? >> what's happening here is this is a wholesale appeal to the right wing. you're unfair in one sense to hn, i think. the republicans are focused on jobs. they're focused on destroying them. >> why is the unemployment rate 8.9%? that's from that left wing group mark zandi who used to advise john mccain. >> from now on, whoever is talking will not be interrupted. i will stick with the person who is actually talking. >> you are going to enforce that rule? >> yes, i am. you just broke it. back in the box for a minute. i want him to make the case. it seems like the republicans have the problem any party has when it gets in to the majority. all the constituency groups that have been barking at the door ç for the time you're out of power come to you the minute you're back in power and say okay, now you have to deliver. so now you have to deliver against planned parenthood. mr. pence would not have gotten
this chance if he would have been in the minority. this going after defending doma, you wouldn't have had the chance if you were in the minority. and now having hearings as peter king is having them, i want him to come on, going after the muslim community, this is all stuff you wanted to do because you have constituency groups barking at your door. if you don't think it's important to do all this, just tell me that. are you telling me it's important to do all these things? is it important to do these things you're doing? >> let me tell you what the republican leadership is doing. they're focused on cleaning up the budget from last year. they put a budget forward and that's where the planned parenthood vote came up. mike pence offered an amendment and the house body voted with mike pence. that's the way it goes. doma, the president decided he wasn't going to enforce the law, so republicans have a concern about that. on peter king, yes, he has a concern about terrorism and he's using his committee, the department of homeland security committee, to probe that and that's his constitutional right to do so.
but the central issue and focus of the government is the budget. >> are these things important to be doing? women, gays and muslims? are these important things to be doing? >> i think they're part of the process. but these are important things, you like they're going after birth control, they tier going after gays and trying to stop any kind of similar-sex marriage and you like the fact that they're investigating the muslim community? you like that? >> what i think the republican leaders -- >> you're not answering me. they're all in the michele bachmann training school about not answering questions. >> i agree with that because when you have a fact like goldman sachs or mark zandi, they're focused on jobs, they're focused on destroying jobs. they have no response to that. the speaker of the house says so be it. they'll be the party of hoover ç
and the party of pat robertson. that's what they're doing in this congress. >> bob, we'll see. my prediction is that the unemployment rate will continue to go down -- >> of course it will go down because of what have barack obama did and you guys opposed. >> as a great american once said -- victory will have 100 fathers. >> but obama will get credit. >> thank you all. just keep saying the economy is getting better, john. up next, sarah palin breaks ronald reagan's rule about never criticizing a fellow republican. she has that mirror, mirror on the wall thing going on right now and she sees chris christie in the mirror. ♪
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now back to "hardball."ç here is sarah palin. no longer a governor but still in political contention, knocking the hottest republican presidential prospect out there. chris christie. >> with all due respect to governor christie, he has no choice but to cut budgets because he's proper. his state is broke. what courage really is in the face of having a surplus when you have opportunity to intend, spend, spend other people's money and then you still choose to rein in government, to let the private sector soar. >> a little tough there. maybe the name chris christie, the idea of taking her place has the former alaska governor a bit baked. later that same night getting peefed with bill o'reilly over something o something other than entitlement reform.
>> i would say that paul ryan erode map nailed it accurately when he talks about age 55 being a cut off age. but what we also need to -- >> wait. i want to be very clear. so 55, anybody over keeps the social security that they have coming to them, but younger -- >> when we talk about increasing the retirement age -- >> i got all that. i have to get specific here. you're saying instead of 52, it goes to 55. >> we do not change the pension benefits of those who are receiving now. >> i agree. >> and i really apologize that up here in alaska we have this four-second delay, so it's not an easy exchange to try to get my point across to you if you interrupt. >> if you interrupt. sometimes you just want the person talking to get to where they're going. next don't forget to watch the event tonight. i'm going to play myself a little cameo alongside actress virginia madsen. she plays a u.s. senator on alaska about to reveal a conspiracy on "hardball."
here is a preview of the show tonight. >> i vow to champion my husband's causes, the foremost of which is transparency in government. >> i understand you made shocking discoveries since taking office. >> i have. and the most shocking is that ìáhp &hc% government program syphoning hundreds of millions of dollars every year. did you know that alaska has the highest rate of unemployment in the country? a statewide epidemic of childhood obesity -- >> this is live? >> give me msnbc. now. >> she's using my words against me. >> will the senator reveal what she knows? find out tonight. "the event" airs on nbc at 8:00 p.m. up next, why does michele bachmann keep on referring to the obama administration as a gangster government? who is she speaking for? does she really think the obama administration has committed crimes? gangster? look it up in the dictionary.
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i'm milissa rehbergering. the u.n. has started drafting a resolution creating a no-fly zone as libyanç jets pounded rebel strong holds, keeping the anti-government uprising contained to the eastern part of that country. despite a campaign prom to the contrary, president obama is restarting terror trials at guantanamo bay. a former aide has filed sexual harassment charge against florida democratic congressman al hastings. he is denying the investigations. and cbs says they are terminating charlie sheen's contract on "two and a half mean" effective immediately. now back to "hardball."
welcome back. michele bachmann is head of the tea party caucus formally. she went on "meet the press" yesterday in this building and defended calling the obama administration a gangster government. that was her word, gangster. is she speaking for the whole tea party or right wingers or who some i don't know whether this hyperbole like you sometimes get from the middle east, or the way people talk now, you can disagree and say he's further left than i am, you can say he's bigger on government than i am, but what does it mean? here she is defending her term here.
gangster. like he's a criminal. he's running a criminal operation. what is she talking like this for and to whom? let's listen. >> you've referred to the obama administration as a gangster government. you've said this president has anti-american views. do you believe that still? >> i believe that the actions of this government have been emblematic of ones that have not been based on true american values. just consider obama care. over 900 waivers have been given out to unions and protected special interests. >> is it appropriate to refer to the government as a gangster government and to question whether this president loves america? >> i do believe that actions ç that have been taken by this white house, i don't take back my statement on gangster government. i think that have been actions feign that have been taken by this government that i think are corrupt. >> corrupt. congresswoman sanchez, this is a corrupt administration. i don't know where the indictments are. if it's corrupt, let's see the indictme
indictments. if there's something criminal, let's hear about it. throwing words around like gangster, what is she up to? is this what appeals to people who simply want to hear bad things said about president obama? is that what it is? >> there is a group of people who do not like president obama no matter what. and so amongst themselves, they fight over the space and the time to say the worse things they possibly can. of course it's not a gangster government. this is our government. all the people run the government. just as we saw in the location, the people made a different choice this past time. i think in the future they'll make -- they'll take this group out also. so i think it's about the people and the people have the choices and it's really sad to actually see one of my colleagues say those types of things. it's just wrong. >> let me bring jonathan on
here. you're a very smart guy and i think you know the washington scene as well as i do. or at least you're learning it. as a younger guy. there's a group over in virginia that teaches right wing people how to talk like this. always repeat over and over again and ignore the question. david gregory was doing a masterful job of trying to get her to answer a question. she wasn't answering it. here is the montage. accuse her of staying like a zombie. you stay on this hypnotic trance no matter what the question is. you come on television not to engage in a dialogue but to speak this sort of rehearsed thing. here is david gregory repeatedly yesterday asking congresswoman bachmann about the possibility of a government shutdown, a good question. whether she herself would vote to shut down the government, an equally good question. and whether speaker boehner has failed the tea party. she kept saying there was a
secret $105 billion hidden as she put it, even though it's appropriated, in the health care legislation. let's watch this behavior pattern. is it mental or is this method? let's watch. >> there was a congressional research service report that just was issued in february and we discovered secretly unbeknownst to members of congress, over $105 billion was hidden in the obama care legislation to fund the implementation of obama care. we've taken one step forward and two steps back because we've found now that $105 billion had already been implemented. >> you've heard the president this week offer -- >> appropriated. i think this deception that the president and pelosi and reid put forward with appropriating over $105 billion needs to be given back to the people. $105 billion is a lot of money. i think president obama needs to
give back that $105 billion that they already appropriated. this $105 billion has to be given back before we can start any other discussion. >> let me -- >> the main message going across the internet today among members of the tea party, they are outraged about this $105 billion that was deceptively put in the -- >> congresswoman -- >> we have to demand that we claw back the $105 billion that was deceptively already appropriated by president obama. >> is there some kind of playing card, queen of diamonds, like you flash the queen of diamonds and this congresswoman colleague of yours goes into that trance like repetition of those words. she's even got a card. is this a conditioned response? i'm asking. is this mental or method?ç is she methodically behaving like this or is this the way her brain is working? i'm trying to figure out what's going on.
people don't behave like this, congresswoman. i know you well enough to know that you know what's going on around you. is what's going on around you hypnotic behavior, trance-like behavior or is somebody saying the number one show on television to n. terms of being able to make a point is not to go and answer david gregory's question but to go in like a trance and behave like this. >> i think it's method acting absolutely. i believe she was told, she's been taught and this is what she does. that's why she doesn't have the type of appeal that you need to really push through something like that. has nothing to do with the policy. we all know for example that when we passed that health care reform, everybody, everybody, i mean everybody in the united states and anywhere else who wanted to get on the internet could read what was in there for at least three days ahead of time. so she can't all of a sudden complain that there's $105 billion in there. >> everything is a secret and a
repetition. what is this conservative training going on here? >> i don't know about the conservative training, but what we're seeing from congresswoman bachmann, it answers the question about when she was asked later about gangster government. calling the administration corrupt. that's her answer. the administration put in this hidden $105 billion without congress' approval even though congress appropriated it. she was relentlessly on message which is a typical washington thing. she always comes with a prop whether it's that placard with $105,464,000,000 on it. remember when she did her state of the union address turning around and showing a chart of jobless numbers and deficit numbers. she's someone for whom tea party members look to because she's a member of congress, because she st votes, theyress, because she
look to her for answers and she's someone -- you know, you play clips of sarah palin from time to time when she answers questions, and she meanders all over the place. not congresswoman bachmann. she is direct and her words are overflowing with information. it's just that the information sometimes is completely wrong. >> the queen of diamonds was flashed on sunday around 10:30 in the morning washington time because she repeated every word she'd rehearsed. thank you -- or memorized or whatever. thank you very much. congressman loretta sanchez, my pal. thanks for coming on from california. up next, president obama is under new pressure from both parties now to respond more aggressively against what's going on in libya, at least from some people. they want a no-fly zone. are the options really there. we'll get a report from richard engel. and also somebody else. this is hardball. tdd# 1-800-345-2550
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president obama said all options are on the table in response to the violence of libya as rebels continue their march toward tripoli. richard engle is nbc chief foreign correspondent. what good would a no-fly zone do for the rebels? would it do any good? >> it would help them a great deal. they have a lot of terrain to cover. they're moving in unarmored vehicle across the open desert and they're extremely vulnerable to air fire. so if they had a no-fly zone, then gadhafi could not fly helicopters and jets to attack those convoys of rebels who are trying to reach libya. so it would be air support for
them. >> we got word no-fly zones are more effective against fighters but it would have a limited effect against helicopters and ground operations. is that your assessment, as well? >> that's always been the problem and that was the problem with the no-fly zone in iraq right after the first 199 (u&f war. there was a no-fly zone, but it didn't apply to low-flying helicopters and saddam hussein used those to rush the rebellion, shiites in particular. so if you wanted it to be effective, it would have to make it against aircraft and helicopter, gun ships if you really want to give protection to the rebels. and becomes a military operation. you need troops involved.
you need action in the sky, you need to take out ground defenses. you're effectively joining the rebellion by giving them air cover. >> can we expect a victory by the rebels or will this end up in stalemate or victory for gadhafi's forces if we don't get involved? >> it's in stalemate right now and the stalemate is mostly being the battle. you have tripoli where i am, and gadhafi is firmly in control of this city. the people here, he has a great deal of loyalists. people that don't support him are afraid to come in the streets now. there have been two towns that are opposed to gadhafi. and those have been isolated, they've been completely surround. the western battle front around tripoli is secure from gadhafi's point of view. the other is still about 450 miles away through open desert, and in order to get here, those rebels in unarmored pickup
trucks and regular sedans have to drive across the desert. as they've been trying to do that, they've been picked off by artillery and aircraft. so it doesn't look like they're going to get here any time soon unless they have air cover, which as we just talked about wouldn't be a humanitarian shield, it would be air support. >> thank you very much. as always, richard engel in tripoli. joining me now, alex wagner. correspondent for white house politics.com. seems to me the united states is held back by the possibility it would look like anç interventionist, even if we go in for the best purposes like in somalia. do we need the arab league behind us, not just the u.n., before we move an inch militarily? >> that's an interesting point. the administration has certainly been very cautious making sure this does not seem like america is going it alone. the white house is constantly
reiterating this is a multi lateral effort if military stks. you had regional bodies like the arab league denouncing gadhafi. having them behind it is a huge stamp of approval. that's one of the reasons the white house says all options are on the table. they are trying to shore up international support, including the arab league and allied partners in terms of doing anything mill tar is particular. >> what do you think of john mccain, mitch mcconnell voicing aggressive, hawkish positions. kerry a little in the middle. they seem to be pushing the administration from the outside to act. is that coordinated or is that partisan politics or different views or what? >> i think it is not such a surprise. mccain and kerry both have been
vocal, very forward thinking in terms of armed intervention in other troubled hot spots. i think the issue is kerry is a little further out than the white house would like. speaking with senior white house officials earlier today, they said the president is not going to be forced into any action in this situation based on partisan political bickering. the only consideration to be made is american strategic interest in the reasonable on and doing this in a multi lateral fashion. >> so now your outlook on it now this monday. do you think we're going in? >> i think if we do anything it will be with nato. i don't think america will have a go it alone strategy at all. >> thank you very much.ç alex wagner. when we return, george will, a story that ran yesterday. deserves bouncing huckabee and gingrich off the stage for their tainted approach to politics. you're watching "hardball," only on msnbc. ave us from our phones.
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well, this sunday in his widely syndicated newspaper column, george will led a different talk out of the presidential slks process for 2012. he heard the words of mike huckabee on am radio, enlarging a ken ard thrown by newt gingrich and dumped a paradigm of candidates. pander to a radio talk show host that asked him what he thought of the president not being able to show any record of what he is, no health records, no college records, no birth certificate. in other words, a fictitious figure pretending to be born in hawaii. in short, an imposter, some extraordinary case of identity theft. the product of some outrageously bold plot to get a kid a black american or black african and white american parents named barrage hussein obama elected president a half century later.
what was huckabee's response to the par a noi? i would love to know more, as if this talk show guy of wild conspiracy theories may be onto something. what i know is troubling enough, eager to add to the speculation. i do know his perspective as growing up in kenya, with a kenyan father and grandfather, their view of the mau mau revolution in kenya is very different than ours. well, our president never spent a day of his youth in kenya. huckabee knew that, says he knew that. he knew, too, that the talk about mau mau in kenya would sell with the haters and he was dirk it out to them until he -- dishing it out to them until he got caught. gingrich calls it a predictive model of what he knew was the issue. why is he caught telling this story? george will should be commended for knowing precisely why he